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-^ Vendor ​       ^ Post thread ​    ^ Post wall thickness ​ ^ Wire thickness ​ ^ Post markings ​           ^ Notes                                                      ^ 
-| Alera         | 3/8-16 x 1-1/2  |                      |                 ​| ​                         |                                                            | 
-| Costco ​       | 3/​8-16 ​         | 1.4 mm               ​| ​                | 5th bottom double notch  | Misc brands. ​ All the same?                                | 
-| shelving.com ​ | 1/​2-12 ​         |                      |                 ​| ​                         |                                                            | 
-| Metro         ​| ​                ​| ​                     |                 ​| ​                         |                                                            | 
-| Quantum ​      ​| ​                ​| ​                     |                 ​| ​                         |                                                            | 
-| Seville ​      ​| ​                ​| ​                     |                 | 1st bottom double notch  |                                                            | 
-| ULINE         ​| ​                | 1.4 mm               ​| ​                | 2/4 numbered ​            | Verified 1.4 mm    \\ Threaded? ​ Castors actually snap in  | 
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-FIXME : need to clarify threading. ​ Some are intrinsic, others are inserts (inner + outer thread) 
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-Thread? 
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-    * Alera: 3/8" x 1-1/​2"​. ​ TPI? 
-    * 3/8-16 sounds like is the standard thread 
-    * Shelving.com:​ 1/2-12 
-      * [[http://​www.shelving.com/​Post-Extension-Starter-Kit-4-Pack-p/​si-pooskit-p.htm|http://​www.shelving.com/​Post-Extension-Starter-Kit-4-Pack-p/​si-pooskit-p.htm]] 
-    * Verify uline threading before buying more 
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-====== General tips ====== 
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-If an insert slips, it will usually partially shear the notch, making it unsuitable for heavy load bearing. Consider replacing it or at least inspect it 
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-If you are having trouble with inserts slipping, support them from the bottom as you gently hammer the shelf down. Once its on a bit, the insert shouldn'​t slip. Of course, be careful not to pinch your finger 
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-Assembly: I generlaly find it easist to assemble the first shelf horizontally to insert the poles. I lightly tap them in and then stand it vertically to fully set them. I setup subsequent levels by snapping in all four inserts and then gently lowering the shelf down, being careful not to knock them out of place. All four are lightly tapped in, checking for slips. If they look good I fully set all four 
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-Seville makes pre-cut plastic shelving covers 
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-U-Line makes metal inserts intended for ESD applications. These presumably are stronger than the plastic ones (although a lot mor eexpensive) 
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-U-line shelves have bigger wheels and locks on all four of them (other brands typically only 2/4 wheels lock) 
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-You can get extenders to make taller shelves (but be careful of making it unstable) 
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-Wheels may unscrew over time. Consider check them, especially if you roll them around a lot. This may cause them to fail in high load applications. Note: U-Line wheels snap in, so they do not have this failure mode 
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-Attach rackmount PDUs by screwing t-slot to the cross supports 
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-Metro sells clips to hang things 
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-Avoid mixing sleeves from different vendors within a shelf level, and especially don't pair them on a single pole 
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-====== Component ====== 
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-===== Liner ===== 
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-60 x 24" liner study 
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-^ Vendor ​  ^ Model  ^ Description ​                                                                                          ^ Size  ^ Material ​ ^ Link  ^ Notes  ^ 
-| Seville ​ |        | Seville Classics 2 Individual Smoke Gray Fitted Shelf Liners, Designed to Fit 24” x 60“ Wire Shelves ​ |       ​| ​          ​| ​      ​| ​       | 
-|          |        | Alera ALESW59SL4824 Shelf Liners For Wire Shelving, Clear Plastic, 48w x 24d (Pack of 4)              |       ​| ​          ​| ​      ​| ​       | 
-|          |        | AKRO-MILS AW2460LINER - Clear Shelf Liner for 24-inch X 60-inch Chrome Wire Shelf - Pack of 4         ​| ​      ​| ​          ​| ​      ​| ​       | 
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-https://​www.amazon.com/​gp/​product/​B00EUBA582/​ 
-  * Seville Classics 2 Individual Smoke Gray Fitted Shelf Liners, Designed to Fit 24" x 60" Wire Shelves ​ 
-  * Ordered these before 
-  * Was okay, although would like stiffer, like I've seen on metro shelves 
-  * polypropylene 
-  * 0.02" (0.5 mm) thick 
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-https://​www.amazon.com/​gp/​product/​B00EUBA582/​ 
-  * Alera ALESW59SL4824 Shelf Liners For Wire Shelving, Clear Plastic, 48w x 24d (Pack of 4)  
-  * Thickness? 
-  * Material: clear plastic 
-  * Looks like it might be textured or better grip 
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-https://​www.amazon.com/​Akro-Mils-AW1236LINER-12-Inch-36-Inch-Chrome/​dp/​B00L4ECVZS/​ref=sr_1_13?​ie=UTF8&​qid=1515825400&​sr=8-13&​keywords=wire%2Bshelf%2Bliner&​th=1 
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-===== Sleeve ===== 
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-Called: 
-  * Metro: "Metro Industrial Shelf Sleeve"​ ([[http://​www.metro.com/​accessories/​wire-shelving-accessories/​replacement-plastic-split-sleeves|ref]]) 
-    * Another source called it "​Plastic split sleeve"​ 
-  * U-Line: shelf support 
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-^ Image outer                         ^ Image inner                        ^ Type  ^ Material ​ ^ Inner ridges ​ ^ Outer notches ​ ^ Center mark     ^ Arrow  ^ Notes                   ^ 
-| {{:​metro:​sleeve:​p1_front.jpg?​150}} ​ | {{:​metro:​sleeve:​p1_back.jpg?​150}} ​ | P1    | Plastic ​  | 2             | 1              | Sprue, sunken ​  | Thick  | U-Line ​                 | 
-| {{:​metro:​sleeve:​p2_front.jpg?​150}} ​ | {{:​metro:​sleeve:​p2_back.jpg?​150}} ​ | P2    | Plastic ​  | 1             | 0              | Sprue, small, ​  | Thin   ​| ​                        | 
-| {{:​metro:​sleeve:​p3_front.jpg?​150}} ​ | {{:​metro:​sleeve:​p3_back.jpg?​150}} ​ | P3    | Plastic ​  | 1             | 1              | Eject, deep     | Thick  | IIRC these are Seville ​ | 
-|                                     ​| ​                                   | P4    | Plastic ​  | 1             | 1              | Eject, shallow ​ | Thick  |                         | 
-|                                     ​| ​                                   | P5    | Plastic ​  | 2             | 1              | Sprue, eject    | Thick  |                         | 
-| {{:​metro:​sleeve:​m1_front.jpg?​150}} ​ | {{:​metro:​sleeve:​m1_btm.jpg?​150}} ​  | M1    | Metal     | 1             | 1 for clip     ​| ​                | None   | Requires external clip  | 
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-"​Type"​ is an arbitrarily name I came up 
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-The two ridge ones are nice. Who makes these? At first I thought it was Seville, but I recently ordered some sleeves as well as got some shelving and confirmed neither had dual ridge. Maybe they did originally but don't now? Strong evidence for them having dual ring is that their posts have one more level than other brands, which would be needed if you had two ridges. 
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-Aha! Its U-Line. [[https://​www.sevilleclassics.com/​1inch-slip-sleeves-plastic-slip-covers-8-pairs?​pid=143|Seville page]] doesn'​t show the two notch, but [[https://​www.uline.com/​BL_4216/​Wire-Shelving-Supports|U-Line page]] does 
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-Outer notches are presumably for helping locate pole notches. IIRC one had two outer notches but now I can't find this 
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-===== Extender ===== 
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-[[http://​shelfadditions.com/​3-4-inch-wire-shelving-screw-in-post-inserts.html|http://​shelfadditions.com/​3-4-inch-wire-shelving-screw-in-post-inserts.html]] 
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-    * 3/4" Screw In Wire Shelving Post Inserts 
-    * If SOURCE is equal to OTHER then the Post Insert is made for a 1” post with a 1.2mm post thickness. 
-    * If SOURCE is equal to COSTCO then the Post Insert is made for a 1” post with a 1.4mm post thickness. 
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-[[https://​metroshelving.net/​products_wall_wire_solid_office_shelving_carts_racks_md_de_pa_va_dc.php?​id=9885|https://​metroshelving.net/​products_wall_wire_solid_office_shelving_carts_racks_md_de_pa_va_dc.php?​id=9885]] 
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-    * Think 3/8 
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-[[http://​www.shelving.com/​Post-Extension-Kit-p/​si-pookiti.htm|http://​www.shelving.com/​Post-Extension-Kit-p/​si-pookiti.htm]] 
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-    * 1/2-12 
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-ULINE 
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-    * How to make work? 
-    * Maybe should add on using a different, safer brand 
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-====== Vendor ====== 
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-===== Costco ===== 
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-Standard issue: low cost, good quality, fits the bins good.  Biggest disadvantage:​ only one size 
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-Did the plastic retainers switch to only one groove or are those from the quantum unit? 
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-U-LINE 
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-Result: 
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-    * More expensive than Costco 
-      * XXX: did I check if they have a low cost "​standard issue" model? 
-    * Similar quality 
-    * Best options: sizes, ESD, carts, etc 
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-===== Metro ===== 
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-Their high price has, unfortunately,​ generally scared me away. However, I believe these are the "​original"​ wire shelving brand and are likely high quality 
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-===== Quantum ===== 
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-Much lower quality than Costco or u-line 
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-    * Light duty 
-    * No casters 
-    * Only 4 shelves per set (vs 6) despite more expensive 
-    * Supplied the one notch retainers? 
-      * Must take care to click them properly on marker levels (2 close notches) 
-      * Don't hold as well 
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-[[http://​www.amazon.com/​gp/​product/​B008I8EXAO?​psc=1&​redirect=true&​ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage|http://​www.amazon.com/​gp/​product/​B008I8EXAO?​psc=1&​redirect=true&​ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage]] 
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-    * Also 70U 
-    * 22 
-    * 22 
-    * 24 
-    * 2 (bottom) 
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-===== Seville ===== 
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-Standard issue lab bench / storage 
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-[[https://​www.amazon.com/​gp/​product/​B00CL920NS/​ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?​ie=UTF8&​psc=1|Seville Classics 5-Tier UltraZinc NSF Steel Wire Shelving /w Wheels, 24" D x 60" W x 72" H ]] 
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-[[https://​www.sevilleclassics.com/​1inch-slip-sleeves-plastic-slip-covers-8-pairs|1-Inch Slip Sleeves Plastic Slip Covers (8 Pairs / for 2 shelves)]] 
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-[[https://​www.sevilleclassics.com/​72_inch_chrome_shelving_poles?​pid=132|72"​ high pole pair]] 
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-[[https://​www.sevilleclassics.com/​four_inch_castors_for_shelving_units?​pid=161|Wheels]] 
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-===== Seville vs Costco ===== 
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-They look similar at first glance but have some important spacing differences Probably best not to mix these, but you probably can as long as you observe the different notching scheme. 
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-^Item ^Costco ^Seville ^Notes | 
-|Castor production mark |Wheel support |Wheel itself |  | 
-|Castor bearing shield color |Light blue |Dark blue |  | 
-|Castor attachment |Spacer nut |Direct screw |  | 
-|Pole insert notches |1 |2 |2 should grip better | 
-|Pole notching |40 notches |41 notches (per extra grip) |  | 
-|Pole double notch spacing |Narrower |Wider |  | 
-|First double notch |1st bottom |5th bottom |Costco 1st notch equivilent to Seville 2nd notch | 
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-====== Bin storage ====== 
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-If you just need to store short (6") and tall bins (8"), Costco (always 48 x 18") is lowest price for good quality shelving. However, if you also want to use shelving as workspace and want to store large bins (12"), reccomend using 60 x 24", such as made by Seville. U-Line quality is also good (possibly better), but much more expensive and Seville is good enough for most things. 
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-Bin terminology:​ 
-  * Short bin: 16-1/2 x 10-7/8 x 6" (ex: Akro-Mills 33166GREY) 
-  * Tall bin: 16-1/2 x 10-7/8 x 8" (ex: Akro-Mills 33168GREY) 
-  * Large bin: 20 x 15 x 12” (ex: quantum DG93120) 
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-Shelf terminology:​ 
-  * Large shelf: 48w x 18d x 72h" (ie Costco) 
-  * Small shelf: 60w x 24d x 72h" (ie Seville) 
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-Height combinations:​ 
-    * 14 unit pitch 
-    * * 2x short bin high 
-      * 1x tall bin high (with space wasted) 
-      * 1x large bin high 
-    * 20 unit pitch 
-      * 3x short bin high 
-      * 2x tall bin high (with some space wasted) 
-    * Top stacking no more than 
-      * 3 short bins 
-        * Typically 2 
-        * Usually not though as top is reserved for larger objects 
-      * 2 tall bins 
-      * 2 large bins  
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-Width combinations:​ 
-    * 48" width 
-      * 4 standard bins across 
-      * 3 large bins across on top with some overhang 
-      * 2 large bins across plus 1 standard bin fits tightly, but only if lid removed 
-    * 60" width 
-      * 5 standard bins across 
-      * 3 large bins across 
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-Lab bench, normal 
-  * Use large shelf 
-  * Stackup 
-    * 8 
-    * 33 
-    * 14 
-    * 14 
-    * 2 (btm) 
-  * Fits (large shelf): 
-    * Workspace level, 6 large bins, , 20 small bins 
-    * Workspace level, 40 small bins,  ​ 
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-Lab bench, dense 
-  * Use large shelf 
-  * Experiment to see if I could tolerate the higher and smaller workspace in exchange for more storage 
-  * Result: works okay as standing desk (which is what I usually do anyway). Didn't feel it too cramped 
-  * Stackup 
-    * 8 
-    * 33 
-    * 20 
-    * 20 
-    * 2 (btm) 
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-Lab bench, legroom 
-  * Like above, but omit the second shelf (ie the first that is not the bottom) 
-  * I use this on my soldering workbench as well as one general sitting workbench 
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-Dense bin storage 
-  * Stackup 
-    * 14 
-    * 14 
-    * 20 
-    * 20 
-    * 2 (btm) 
-  * Fits: 
-    * Small shelf: 52 small bins (4 * (3 + 3 + 2 + 2 + 3)) 
-    * Large shelf: 65 small bins (5 * (3 + 3 + 2 + 2 + 3)) 
-  * Note: skips bottom rung. Wastes a little space but makes easier to reach low items and keeps spacing more consistent 
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-Closet short unit 
-  * Cut 10U off for closet (60 U) 
-  * Stackup 
-    * 14 
-    * 14 
-    * 14 
-    * 16 
-    * 2 (btm) 
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-Following were various proposals for storing bulk metal and other material. I played around with arrangement a little, I don't recall which I settled on 
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-Material storage 1 
-  * NOTE: 11 shelves required w/ only 6 shelves standard issue 
-  * Stackup 
-    * 4 
-    * 4 
-    * 12 (irregular material) 
-    * 14 
-    * 14 
-    * 4 
-    * 4 
-    * 4 
-    * 4 
-    * 4 
-    * 2 (btm) 
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-Material storage 2 
-  * NOTE: 10 shelves required w/ only 6 shelves standard issue 
-  * Stackup 
-    * 5 
-    * 5 
-    * 10 (irregular material) 
-    * 14 
-    * 14 
-    * 5 
-    * 5 
-    * 5 
-    * 5 
-    * 2 (btm) 
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-Material storage 3 
-  * Stackup 
-    * 7 
-    * 12 
-    * 14 
-    * 14 
-    * 7 
-    * 7 
-    * 7 
-    * 2 (btm) 
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-Material storage 4 
-  * Stackup 
-    * 20 
-    * 14 
-    * 6 
-    * 7 
-    * 7 
-    * 7 
-    * 7 
-    * 2 (btm) 
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-====== JM ====== 
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-Basically how I personally use these 
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-As stated earlier, I started out using Costco (always 48 x 18") shelving but moved to Seville 60 x 24" depth because: 
-  * Allows me to use one level as workspace. 18" felt too cramped 
-  * Fits 3 large bins. Depth aside, 48" can't easily fit three lidless bins, while 60" comfortably fits them with lids 
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-For microcopes I tried to use larger U-Line shelving because I thought I needed more space and they appeared to be more sturdy. However, I've sense realized 24" depth really is enough in practice and I did in fact manage to damage the last shelving unit with k2scope. I suspect 24" depth would be more reinforced and in fact would fit the microscope after all. 
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-For bulk raw material storage (ie things like aluminum billet, t-slot, etc) I'm currently using Costco shelving. Since its narrower I think it probably handles the weight better, and generally I prefer a smaller area due to the clutter of misc scrap pieces. Finally, I have a lot of Costco shelving surplus after they were displaced by 24" shelving, so it practically works out. 
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-Units I've used: 
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-^ Vendor ​   ^ Model       ^ Link                                                                                                                                        ^ Width  ^ Depth  ^ Height ​ ^ Type   ^ Notes                                                                                                                                                                                                                            ^ 
-| Costco ​   | 925395 ​     |                                                                                                                                             | 48     | 18     | 72      | Shelf  | Storage ​  ​\\ ​  \\ Doesn'​t handle large bins well\\ \\ [[http://​www.cochaser.com/​blog/​nsf-6-tier-commercial-grade-shelf/​|Sample images]] ​                                                                                         | 
-| Seville ​  | SHE24605Z ​  | [[https://​www.amazon.com/​gp/​product/​B00CL920NS/​ref=od_aui_detailpages00?​ie=UTF8&​psc=1|Link]] ​                                               | 60     | 24     | 72      | Shelf  | Bench / storage ​  ​\\ ​  \\ Can hold 3x large bin   ​\\ ​ \\ "​Seville Classics 5-Tier UltraZinc NSF Steel Wire Shelving /w Wheels, 24" D x 60" W x 72" H" ​                                                                           | 
-| U-Line ​   | H-1521 ​     | [[https://​www.uline.com/​Product/​Detail/​H-1521/​Wire-Carts/​Heavy-Duty-Wire-Cart-60-x-24-x-41?​FromOrderHistory=Y|Link]] ​                       | 60     | 24     | 41      | Cart   ​| ​ \\ Capacitor ​  ​\\ ​  \\ "​Heavy-Duty Wire Cart - 60 x 24 x 41" ​  ​\\ ​ \\ Used with ESD kit ([[https://​www.uline.com/​Product/​Detail/​H-4276/​Wire-Shelving-Accessories/​ESD-Grounding-Kit?​FromOrderHistory=Y|link]]) to keep grounded ​ | 
-| U-Line ​   |  H-2949-34C |  [[https://​www.uline.com/​Product/​Detail/​H-2949-34C/​Wire-Shelving/​Two-Shelf-Wire-Shelving-Unit-48-x-36-x-34-Chrome?​FromOrderHistory=Y|Link]] |     48 |     36 |      34 |  Shelf | Microscope ​  ​\\ ​  \\ Added supports ([[https://​www.uline.com/​Product/​Detail/​H-2935-POST/​Wire-Shelving-Accessories/​Post-for-Chrome-Wire-Shelving-34?​FromOrderHistory=Y|link]]) ​                                                   | 
-| Sandusky ​ | MWS482438 ​  | [[https://​www.amazon.com/​gp/​product/​B009O080V8/​ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?​ie=UTF8&​psc=1|Link]] ​                                           | 48     | 24     | 38      | Cart   ​| ​ \\ General use   ​\\ ​  \\ "​Sandusky MWS482438 Adjustable Wire Shelf Cart with Pull Handle, 800 lbs Maximum Capacity, 48" Width x 38" Height x 24" Depth, Chrome" ​ \\  \\ Hard to assemble. Are other brands better? ​             | 
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